plaistow indeed?

[nellanhoj]

Found this! Hopefully. you can't see previews of posting on this site, unfortunately! Press twice to enlarge.
the Museum said this was Plaistow? As far as West ham Lane is concerned I always thought of it as Stratford!

[MBrennan]

I was trying to make out the name of the shop. It looks like Plediard but nothing comes up under that name. I found this website dedicated to Pie & Mash with a map of various places in the country that sell it. Not sure how reliable it is as it shows one in my town (Whitstable) when I clicked on it, it said "The Whistlestop" - which is just a big restaurant with a huge menu of fairly mediocre food - at least it was the few times I went. It is a 2-minute walk from here so if they do sell decent pie & mash...

Edited to say - I see it is P. Lediard  http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/collections-research/collections-online/object.aspx?objectID=object-297187&start=28&rows=1

I love the Museum of London - I must go back there some time.

[Barry N]

 Nice photo , that's where I got my pie mash from , had a small room at the back up two steps if they were busy to sit .Barry

[MBrennan]

I keep getting cravings reading these threads 

I'm making do with Tesco mince & onion pie tonight! 

[nellanhoj]

I keep getting cravings reading these threads 
I'm making do with Tesco mince & onion pie tonight! 

Well I think you'll have to make do with this recipe to go with that "pie"
Ingredients Parsley Liquor

25 Gram Butter (1 oz)
25 Gram Plain flour (1 oz)
300 ml Water (10 fl oz)
4 Tablespoon Chopped fresh parsley
Salt and freshly ground pepper
1 Teaspoon Malt vinegar, optional

How to make Parsley Liquor

•Melt the butter in a saucepan. Add the flour and cook for 1 minute.
•Gradually add the water or stock. Bring to the boil, stirring continuously. Add the parsley and seasoning and vinegar if using.
•Serve with a minced beef pie and mashed potatoes.
Note:

You can use chicken stock to make your Parsley Liquor in place of the water

BEST of luck!

[MBrennan]

Thanks for that  

I was told that liquor had the liquid from cooking the eels in it. Maybe something they used to do?

edit

I found this reference that says liquor is the term for water that has had fish or eels cooked in it. http://www.pie-and-mash.com/recipes.shtml

I don't know if any P & M shops used it in recent times. At least it proves I didn't imagine being told 

Mark

[Duncan_Barrett]

Are there any pie and mash shops left in Newham these days?  I saw in The Evening Standard last week that Pete Townsend is trying to save one from closure in Shepherd's Bush - http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24034362-theres-no-substitute-for-threatened-eel-and-pie-shop-says-who-star-pete.do.

[Robert Rogers]

There is one at the Green gate.

[Bill Sharpe]

There's also a very good one close to the Abbey Arms on the site that used to be Wally Pope's.

[nellanhoj]

Nathan's Boleyn?

And for bus pass holders:

Maureens Crisp Street
Noted Pie and Mash Crisp Street
Robins: Wanstead, Romford, down the Roman
           along with Kelly's and also in Beffnal Green Road!
There's no shortage of pie and mash shops, only limitations on your preference and taste. All pie and mash shops are very individual to the particular shops.
The last time I was in a shop someone was moaning at £5.60 for a dble pie and mash, yet they quite happily paid £8 for a wafer-thin 10in cheese pizza which wasn't as good as a bit of cheese on toast.
   

[EX CUSTOM HOUSE]

We cannot keep away from posts on our good old "PIE & MASH" can we?

Some time ago in a post I commented how lovely the case was, (let alone the contents) and although I have been a housewife for more years than I wish to remember I have never come across a recipe.

THE BIG QUESTION:- is it made of Pasta.  If it is we can buy sheets of Pasta and to make a case and fill it with Mince Meat
and then some of MBrennan's Liquor I think it might be somewhere near?
Mind you we could never get the atmosphere of those white tiled Cook's shops with the bench seats and three lots of vinegar.

Did anyone else see David Beckham on a certain show last week ?  when he stated as soon as he and the children arrive home, straight from the Air Port they make for the Pie & Mash shop. (He is a favourite of mine in any case).

Dribbling at the thought of a nice P&M for T.

Louise
Airport they all go for a  Pie & Mash.  That warmed my heart (mind you he is a favourite of mine)

[MBrennan]

On one of the sites I read yesterday that an original recipe had 2 different types of pastry. Suet pastry for the base and something else for the top. In the very old recipes, they refer the pastry as paste - which after all is what Pasta means.

Mark

[MBrennan]

It says in this video that it was invented by Joe Cooke's great grandfather.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak28s_6sNcc I don't think it was invented by any one person. Just cheap, filling & lovely working class food. They mention using the Eel juice for the liquor.

And Manze's in Walthamstow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak28s_6sNcc

[Alf still]

It says in this video that it was invented by Joe Cooke's great grandfather.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak28s_6sNcc I don't think it was invented by any one person. Just cheap, filling & lovely working class food. They mention using the Eel juice for the liquor.

And Manze's in Walthamstow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak28s_6sNcc

I live in Braintree essex,moved here in 1970 after living 40 odd years in Royal Rd. and Le yes Rd.lots of old East Enders live here,that is why our local Sainsburys sell Cookes frozen Pie en Mash costs about £2.50,not a big portion but if you buy 2you finish up with double  Pie-en -Mash for a fiver which ain't bad for a meal that you really enjoy Salisbury's say its one of their best sellers in the frozen food section, they have been selling it for about 5 years now

                                               Regards      ALF.

[MBrennan]

Hi Alf,

I will have a look in our local Sainsbury's this week. There are a few ex-eastenders around here - a lot bult houses where they used to go hopping in Seasalter down the road. I know more moved out to Essex. My mum used to live in Holland-on-sea until my dad died 7 years ago and she unfortunately moved to Basildon to be near my sister in Langdon Hills. My younger brother lives in Clacton and my older brother recently moved to Southend after living in Stanford-le-Hope for years. I think most eastenders had more of a connection with Essex - partly as most of our daytrips were to Southend or Shoebury (I remember muddy sand and flies!) We also had family in Thorpe Bay and Hullbridge. My mum's uncle Bill was a barber there for years.

If it comes to it, I can do an online order with Sainsbury's, although I have never done an online food shop in my life  

Mark