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« on: 13 January, 2012, 09:38:03 AM » |
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Would anyone know where this picture was taken? Its the front cover of a book due out in March.
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Duncan_Barrett
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« Reply #1 on: 13 February, 2012, 03:03:55 PM » |
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Hi Tony,
Just saw your query on this. You'd think I would know the answer as it's my own book, but I'm afraid the cover is entirely down to the publisher! All I can tell you is that the image comes from an image library called Topfoto. We do have a genuine Tate & Lyle pic on the back cover, which is lovely - a group of girls in their uniforms looking over some LP records.
Best wishes,
Duncan
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MBrennan
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« Reply #2 on: 09 April, 2012, 09:30:54 AM » |
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I did quite a few searches on Topfoto before I found it  I had better not post a link to the photo in case there is a copyright issue. Anyway, the answer is the photo was taken in Lamb Cliff, Stone, Kent. (Between Dartford & Greenhithe) The photo was taken in the shadow of a cement factory. If you go to the Topfoto site and search cement factory you will find it (that wasn't the search I found it under - I found it under 'factory children' search for all words.) |
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MickG
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« Reply #3 on: 09 April, 2012, 09:59:54 AM » |
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Mark,
As I understand it, posting a link to a picture, article etc is not infringing copyright. In essence you are not copying anything, what you are doing is redirecting the viewer to where the information can be found. I think you will find that the owners of most websites will be only too pleased of a link to their site as it means more people get to view whatever information, (visual/textual etc.), they purposefully displayed for all the world to see.
If posting a link was a copyright infringement, there would be no search engines like Google as this is exactly what they do when you enter a query. I.e., they present you with a list of links to the relevant information.
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MBrennan
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« Reply #4 on: 09 April, 2012, 10:30:06 AM » |
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Thanks Mick  That makes sense. I suppose it is a lot different to downloading a photo and then posting it; especially without a credit. By the way. There are some really good photos on the Topfoto site (as well as some not so good ) Mark |
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Duncan_Barrett
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« Reply #5 on: 11 April, 2012, 09:08:34 AM » |
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Thanks for the research Mark! It's a shame the photo is from Kent though - I had hoped it might at least have been from London, even if not Tate & Lyle. Oh well, I suppose it's more about the 'feel' of the photo than what's actually depicted in it. Don't judge a book by its cover, etc!
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MBrennan
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« Reply #6 on: 15 April, 2012, 08:35:55 AM » |
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Sorry Duncan, I missed this reply before. I agree that the feel of the photo is probably the most important thing. In a way it is quite relevant as it looks as if the cement factory was on the Thames and that relied on raw materials being bought in by ship.
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« Reply #7 on: 15 April, 2012, 04:32:47 PM » |
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Duncan,
I'm surprised that you had no input in deciding what went on to the cover of your own Book, I'f I had written a book about my passion,( the Royal Docks ) and the Publishers had put on a picture of Barking Creek ,( o.k , not a good comparison ) but you know where I'm coming from, I would have been gutted.
Surely there are enough photo's of T&L out there for the Publishers to use ,I'm sure Stan Dyson could have helped out .
Haven't got round to read the Book yet ,but it's on my to do list.
All the best Ed
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MBrennan
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« Reply #8 on: 15 April, 2012, 05:15:24 PM » |
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Ed, I think publishers wield quite a lot of power. A friend of a friend is an author and she was pressured regarding how many words a weeks were required as well as how her books were promoted (she objected to being labelled as 'chick lit' ). I believe it may have been the same publisher. She changed publishers last year because of it . Mark |
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MickG
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« Reply #9 on: 15 April, 2012, 05:54:10 PM » |
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I think one has to give a little bit of licence to the publisher. It is in both their own interests as well as the author to sell as many books as they can. The first big hurdle is getting someone in a bookshop surrounded by thousands of books to actually pick their book up to perhaps browse through it in the first place, let alone buy it. Just like eyecatchers in the supermarket, the book cover plays an all important role in this. It may well be that the publishers could not find a photograph of the time period that was eye catching enough and found one that best matched the book.
Desirable as a book cover set in the right location and time period is, I think if I was the author, I would rather have people buy and read my book.
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MBrennan
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« Reply #10 on: 15 April, 2012, 06:00:25 PM » |
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Well put Mick As it is, the cover conveys 'living in the shadow of the big factory'. |
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Tony_H
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« Reply #11 on: 15 April, 2012, 06:51:19 PM » |
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When I started this post I was fairly sure it wasn't a picture of Silvertown and it should have been. The front cover is important. Sorry to be nit-picky, but a book about Tate & Lyle Silvertown should have had a picture about Tate & Lyle Silvertown on the front cover.
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« Reply #12 on: 15 April, 2012, 08:59:17 PM » |
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Tony,
Well said, if everything in the book is true which I'm sure it is, then why not the cover location.
On a topical note there are many pictures around of the Titanic, but some Publishers have superimposed pictures of her sister ship the Olympic , although difficult to spot there are differences .
All the best Ed
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